Petts Wood, again, and Redhill

Two more excellent Petts Wood photos. Both are by Bryan Hardwick, who gave permission to post them.  They are on one of the link tracks around Petts Wood junction.  My grandparents lived 1/4 mile away, but the bottom of their garden backed onto the main four track main line, on a high embankment – so train spotting wasn’t so easy.  There are modelling possibilities here for a simple layout.  Here we have a single track line with the ‘Golden Arrow’ passing.  Of course, a model would only have trains running in one direction, but it could be interesting….

Meanwhile, in up-to-date Redhill, a friend complained a couple of weeks ago about the noise from the railway overnight.  Walking across the bridge over the main Brighton line, next to Earlswood Station, I saw these two new signals, that were probably the cause of the noise.   Just goes to show that shiny new signals do appear sometimes….

And my daily constitutional one day this week was timed to see both a train approaching Redhill from Tonbridge….

And one on the Brighton main line.  The driver even waved at me.  Couldn’t have been Sean, as I’d have got a different hand signal!

Finally, a lovely picture of Reigate Station in the 1960’s, and the Redhill shuttle, headcode 2.  Apologies if I’ve not got copyright for this one – but it’s such a lovely shot.

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ESNG meeting – 4 November 2020

A pre-lockdown special tonight.  Not that lockdown makes any difference to Zoom….

We peaked at nine persons logged in (plus one cat), and the conversation even touched upon railways once or twice.  By the time we’ve all talked about lockdown, rainfall, rabbits, our ailments and what’s on TV, there’s not much time left for trains….

Paul was able to show us some trains in motion.  I think there were about six on the go at the same time, but there aren’t many in this shot – those bullets move too quick!  Simon also showed how he had lit up his ‘N’ gauge Dalek with a tiny LED, and a wig-wag (no Karen, not a wig-wam) for his cabooses.

Here’s one up on your layout, Paul….

And here we have the ideal prototype to model during lockdown.  A French goods yard full of wine tankers – very much ‘vin ordinaire’ of the sort you can now buy in plastic jerrycans.

Mind you, lockdown may actually promote modelling.  Previous generations had sterner tests.  I read on-line recently a February 1950 account of the WW2 trials and tribulations of a Model Railway Club member:

“The ‘Schools’ had been rewound and the 0-4-4T was in pieces for rewinding when the proceedings were rudely interrupted by a V2 rocket which enforced a move to new premises.  Fortunately the railway suffered little damage although parts of the mechanism of the tank locomotive were never seen again.

I guess we have it easy, really…..

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Potpourri #1003

Here’s another “operational incident.” This must make a good model for someone!

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/11/whale-tail-sculpture-stops-rotterdam-metro-train-from-crashing-into-water/?fbclid=IwAR1CoRIp8UDHfWkfl-sOQ1Prtn-9joSKTKBwW_jMHKEp0Y6cplZk_Svubq8

More pictures here:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/02/all-cetaceans-go-whale-sculpture-stops-dutch-train-crashing-into-water

A fun video about the old LTSR/District services to Southend.  I have always wanted a model of the coaches used for this service ever since I saw a Model Railway News drawing back in the 1960’s – they were most attractive.

And two from the BBC…..

A new tourist train; and

A new hydrogen powered train.  Should go with a bang….

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The olden days?

As a diversion from my layout design travails, I came across some historic model railway designs on RMWeb, that are worth reposting.

The Larpool and Easington (or was it Easington and Larpool) railway appears in the Railway Modeller sometime in the 1960’s.  It was a TT gauge industrial light railway, built in two small boxes that could be clipped together for transport.

Quite a modern idea, for a portable line.  Perhaps the interesting thing about this little line was the lack of fiddle yard.  OK, the stock on the line was limited (and this could have been an advantage in a time and scale with limited stock available off the shelf), but you have both end of the line modelled, and can operate it as a real railway.

On a far grander scale, an RMWeb thread discussed an old layout presented in the late-lamented Model Railway Constructor.  This dates from rather later, but still the same sort of era.  The following text caught my eye:

‘Compared with the normal fiddle yard, a concealed return loop maintains more convincingly the illusion of ‘romantic places’ far afield – especially if it has more than one track, so that the last train down is never the first train back, and even more so if it works automatically.  For then, when a train runs ‘off the map’ it is not only out of sight but also, out of mind:  no one can recall what trains are hibernating in the tunnel, waiting to reappear at the scheduled time.  And since what had been a down Tunbridge Wells was liable to emerge, considerably later, as an up East Grinstead, and since in the meantime the Croydon operator had to make other movements, the illusion that a train really had been where it was due to go was nearly complete.

By contrast, a fiddle yard – even if hidden from public view – can never deceive the owner or his fellow operators:  it can be all right for exhibitions, but falls down badly as an attempt at private illusion’.

Apologies for the quality of the three diagrams below, that show the layout.  I think they put the concept across.

Now all these stations are way smaller that the real thing – especially Clapham Junction – but the layout does allow you to run a train service over ‘miles’ of main line.  It’s a completely different approach to our recent trend to small station to fiddle yard models.  These, I suspect, have partly appeared due to flats and smaller houses and no spare railway room or room for a garden shed.  And, of course, there is a move to more realism in all aspects of modelling.  But this railway is fun, and I guess that’s really what our hobby is all about.

This sort of approach won’t appeal to everyone.  But perhaps we need to broaden our design ideas a little.  The writer of the thread on RMWeb was building something similar, extending his original ‘Victoria + fiddleyard’ layout.  I suspect it’s going to give him a lot of pleasure…..

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Covid-19 diary #30

Still no modelling progress.  It’s been great to see some of the club on Zoom, but I’m pining for club nights and exhibitions – and that’s a surprise for an anti-social loner like myself!  Still – I have read a lot of books, and got a lot of exercise….

One interesting development was discovering three large boxes on top of my younger daughter’s wardrobe.  All full of railway, in OO and O gauge.  I’ll post some pictures soon, as the box includes some interesting early scratchbuilding.

The good news is that I think that I have a plan for the next layout.  As I said last time, I’ve been continuing to mull over what I really want to build.  I conclude:

  • Size:  It really has to be small.  I learnt from Kuritu that a 6×2 ft board is not manageable at my age.  Even 4×2 gets cumbersome.  So all boards will be no greater than 1000 x 400 mm, perhaps 800 x 400 mm, like N-Club.
  • If possible, it will be a ‘shadow box’ design, like my recent US switching layout.  It is so much easier to build convincing, well lit, scenery with a built in back scene and a proscenium arch.
  • Which really means this will be an end to end layout.  That’s OK, as one day I hope that we’ll be back to club nights and a chance to run trains round and round.

What about prototype location and period?  This is where I am….

  • Most of my stock favours BR steam and transition periods.
  • I have a number of kits for stock from this period.
  • I am really going back to my roots with an interest in early SR EMU’s.
  • But pre-grouping is also attractive, with Terriers and C Class 0-6-0’s in the stock box.
  • Looking at my history books, the LSWR opened it’s first 3rd rail electric lines in 1916.  So running both periods won’t look totally wrong, if one ignores the road vehicles and people and signals.

So this is still a bit up in the air, but probably early BR is best.

Trackwork and control:

  • I really do want to try some scale Code 40 track.  It looks so much better.
  • So that means Finetrax.  I may consider using their turnout kits, but it would be more flexible to lay my own track.  No fears here – I did it in OO (or was it EM), albeit many moons ago – especially with the jigs available.
  • But this means I need to have another go at learning Templot!
  • Control will probably remain DC.  DCC is tempting, but probably unnecessary.

All this tends towards a Minories sort of layout.  I don’t really want to build a pure Minories, so my thoughts have been around something similar, but different.

One bugbear of mine is the fiddle yard.  If one isn’t careful, it is bigger than the layout.  This is still an idea in progress, but the options are probably a traverser (small, but more difficult to build, though I’ve done it in O gauge) or reverse loops (slightly larger and much wider, and probably using smaller radii curves – eg Peco SetTrack 2, 3 & 4 radii.)

Next time, I hope to be able to post a close to final track layout.  Perhaps….

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Petts Wood, 1950’s

I saw this photograph posted on Facebook by Derek Martin, and asked if I could share it.  It’s a fine shot of the up Golden Arrow passing through platform 1 of Petts Wood station.

I was brought up in Petts Wood, and this scene is very familiar.  I remember seeing the Golden Arrow, stream hauled, passing as I went back to infants school after lunch. And early train spotting days caught it with a class 71 electric on the front.  We’re looking south in this photograph, with the old British Legion Club building on the right.  All long gone, though the garage behind it is still there.

Petts Wood was built as a temporary wooden station by the (real) Southern Railway in the 1930’s, as the suburbs, and electrification, spread out from central London. The station has never been rebuilt, although the goods yard has disappeared under a supermarket.

I posted this picture back in 2016, when Maxine and I went back to my roots for a wedding.  The Networker is in much the same place as the Golden Arrow. The station hadn’t changed much, except for an extension to the original ‘temporary’ station building.  Note how the vegetation has grown over the past 60 years!  No cinders to set fire to the lineside, I guess.

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The three-point trick

I’ve always appreciated Ian Futer’s layouts, and their underlying designs.  Some of his best designs are his three-point specials.  Very simple, but with enough operation built in to be reasonably interesting to operate.  This month’s Railway Modeller brought these plans to mind again.

First, Victoria Park, a compressed version of a real Scottish urban terminal.

And here’s a version with an extra point, giving a double track entry to the station.

If you want goods only, there’s Fisherrow Yard.  Plenty of shunting here….

And finally, the oldest of them, Newcastle (Haymarket).  Originally in P4, and on a raised embankment.  This plan was in the Railway Modeller this month:

Ian Futers later built a version in ‘O’ gauge, that was sold on.  But during lockdown, he has started a new ‘O’ gauge version, with using curved points.   This looks rather good, losing the regular shape of Haymarket, and somehow making it look larger.

Building the same layout for the third time must mean that it has something going for it!

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Potpourri #1002

An “operational incident” from Duncan.  Ramsgate, I think…..

we’ve all done this on a layout… less so in full scale!

How silly can you get?

Couple posed on rail line for wedding shoot

Photo_ Network Rail

Some interesting ideas here:

Five innovations that could shape the future of rail travel

I liked the ideas of steerable wheels on the train – but don’t us modellers already have them (sort of) on long wheelbase 4 and 6-wheel stock?  And the virtual coupling is rather like consists in DCC, programming the locos to run at the same speed.

If you’ve got a little time, a classic signal box (interlocking) in the States:

Classic Southern steam, including 10 minutes of trains at Redhill.

https://youtu.be/moFnDMTEGng

And some REAL shunting.  Model this!

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ESNG meeting – 21 October 2020

A record breaking evening on Zoom.   We started with just the four of us.  That included an impressive display with John and Alpenbahn, and five trains running around.  Paul was on-line, but no trains running, due to some wiring issues with his new layout alterations.

Then numbers multiplied.  Graham arrived in both sound and vision, and there was a general showing of new purchases.  And we also had a flying visit from Neil, Martin and Sean, who briefly appeared on-screen.  The conversation did include railways, but was also suitably wide ranging….

Meanwhile, Brian’s camera train is working, but wobbling….

Here’s a short film I made using Simon’s 3D printed flat bogie wagon.  It is bouncing about a bit in places, but I wonder if I need to tighten / loosen the bogies?

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Potpourri #1001

An interesting prototype – New York City warehouses early last century.  Certainly a good basis for a small or micro layout – and to use up all that Peco SetTrack.

A little humour, via Simon.  Mind you, I’ve laid track that looks like that…..

And yet another exhibition cancellation.  Stuttgart NCI meet 2020 is cancelled.  ESNG had decided not to exhibit this year anyway, wondering whether we would be able to get to Germany, let alone exhibit there.  But this is hardly surprising with the upturn in Covid-19 cases in Germany at the moment.  As Stefan puts it:

My task for today is to inform you that the 2020 Exhibition in Stuttgart is cancelled.

The increase of Corona infections in and around Germany have led to more restrictions.  Due to the responsibility for safety of exhibitors as well as visitors the Stuttgart Exhibition Management has decided to cancel all exhibitions till end of the year.  Till this day all of us had hope that the measures for reduction of the Corona-infections in Germany would last till winter – we were on a good way…

I wish you all a good and healthy time – keep your nerves and your positive attitude for life.  We all share a hobby where there is no room for boredom and “have to stay at home” can be changed into creativity!

I need to take that to heart – “stay at home” needs to be more creative!

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