Off my trolley – Pacific Electric to Watts

Once again, it’s been a long time since I posted on traction and trolleys.  But I’m still thinking about modelling ideas, and while I wait, more interurbans and trolleys keep appearing on the Shapeways site.

One of my issues with N-mod is that I have had difficulty thinking of designs with a 4-track main line.  Why, I don’t know, as I was brought up near the SE commuter line to Orpington, all 4-track, with two fast and two slow lines.  But an interurban 4-track mainline?  Surely not??  In fact the Pacific Electric had two such stretches out of central Los Angeles.  One was on the northern district, but over the past few months, the other one, going south into the southern district, has been of interest as a possible N-mod basis.  This line is Pacific Electric’s well known 4-track expressway from LA to Watts.

The Model Railroader in September 1999 had an excellent article by Tom Wetzel with a layout plan and some prototype information.  I have refrained from using much of this for copyright reasons, but will probably reproduce the prototype track plans included.  The photographs in this and subsequent posts mostly come from the fascinating Metro Transportation Library site.

Travelling on this line, you would start on the elevated part of the Pacific Electric building, now converted to flats, but easily found on Google Earth.

Leaving the station, trains followed a raised trestle / viaduct and then down a wood trestle ramp at 3.89% grade to street level at San Pedro Street, near 6th Street.  The line then ran along San Pedro Street and Olympic Boulevard to Hooper Avenue.  This street track was about one mile in length.  At Olympic & Hooper the line entered a private right of way paralleling Long Beach Avenue, and was joined by the yard leads from the 8th Street freight yard.  This point was called “Oscar’s Junction” by PE crews after PE president Oscar Smith).  In the following photo (from “Pacific Electric in colour volume 1”) the tracks curving to the right are the yard leads to 8th Street freight yard.

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The line then passed a small three-track yard on the west side of the main line and headed south.  San Pedro and Long Beach passenger trains used the center “express” tracks of a four-track mainline as far as Watts — 7.45 miles from 6th & Main Streets station.  The outer tracks were used by Watts local trains and freight trains.  The photos below give an idea of the dead straight, N-mod like, main line – the first being early last century.

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Watts is often better known for the riots in 1965.  The station was one of the few building in the area not burned out – and is still there, as Google Street View shows.  Watts recovered from that mad time, and has now evolved into a largely Latino area of LA.

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Watts street view

South of 103rd Street was a maze of slip switches and diverging tracks of a three-way junction. Watts included a passenger station, separate freight station, brick substation, interlocking tower, and four-track carhouse. Lines diverged here to Long Beach-San Pedro, Santa Ana and El Segundo-Torrance.

The main line from LA to Watts is still in use, reduced to double-track as part of the LA metro Blue Line.  Unlike the UK, even urban areas in LA are slow to gobble up unused tracks for development, and the old track bed and the crossings and branches along it can still be identified.  The old lines can still clearly be found on Google Earth – although the yards and car-house have gone.

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That’s enough for this post.  How could we build an N-mod module of two from the Watts racetrack?  Next time….

 

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Now ESNG N-mod baseboards?

Having found a picture reminding me of N-mod track, here’s one that reminds me of our baseboards (at least for the corners and fiddle yard).  Thanks to David Bromage on Small Layouts Group for this….

Found this by accident.  A remarkable Z gauge layout built on a section of tree stump.

Original is here.

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There may be potential for larger scales with different tree species.  Maybe and ‘O’ gauge version on a Giant Redwood?

Perhaps there is a serious message from this.  We need to think of the presentation of our baseboards.  A neat fascia, painted to complement the predominant colours on the layout can really set off the layout.  Bare wood, dodgy looking screw heads and poor construction does not help the rest of our modelling.

On a slightly associated note, I learnt this about Disneyland:

If you’re walking through Disneyland (presumably in a state of Smellitzer induced bliss), one thing you probably won’t notice is … anything painted grey or green.

The company has apparently apparently created two deliberately  dull paint colours, known as “Go Away Green” and “No Seeum Gray”, to draw the eyes of guests away from any objects that they want to hide, or blend away. These can range from utility buildings, to fences and walls, to the door of the famous Club 33.

Surely this paint has many modelling applications, starting with those enormous couplings!

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Wonderful photographs of Chinese stream railway

Another gem from the Daily Telegraph:

While China boasts the world’s most extensive high-speed rail infrastructure with over 16,000 kilometers of track, the Shixi-Bagou railway is still a primary connection for local villagers between towns and is kept alive by tourist cars carrying passengers for ten times the price. The rail line came into service in the late 1950s and the train was initially used to transport coal from a now-shuttered mine before passenger carriages were added.

Two photographs from the set are below, and the rest here.  A lot of modelling challenges here, from the grimy yard, to the bamboo and paddy fields.

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ESNG meeting – 21 May 2015 – and AGM coming

Nothing to report from tonight.  I arrived to join Derek (with the beard and glasses), soon to be joined by Derek (with the beard and glasses).  No-one else turned up, not even the Cha(i)rman who is recovering from a bad back.  Paul arrived at 7:45pm and Peter and Roger after 8.  So we had a chat and went home….


Hopefully, we’ll get a better turnout for the AGM, on Thursday 2 July.


Perhaps a few ideas for a model here?  I would not travel on this scariest of switchbacks!

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Mind you, it might be safer than the morning after Sweden started driving on the right of the road (in 1967).  Even the new Redhill road changes couldn’t rival this.

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The fear factor

One of my regular blog reads, ‘Motorised Dandruff’, has been very quiet recently.  However, I found I could identify with this recent post:

The major problem I have is one of perfectionist block (I think that’s what its called). I can have a vision of what I want to achieve, but lacking the skills (or confidence in those skills) to get to that vision means that it doesn’t get past the starting post. Or that the order of the steps is crucial, and a lack of confidence in a future step can scuttle the current one.. I guess it might be a hangover from my current professional career. This involves every step being planned in advance, and nothing happens until every step to the final one is visualised. OK its not quite like this, but in chemistry if things go wrong, they can go wrong very fast and people get hurt (or at least have to fill in lots of paperwork discussing what went wrong).

In some ways working on the house has been good for this. I’ve now learnt to push a small project through till its either finished, or won’t leak during winter. I can leave it there and go and do something else. I’ve also been dabbling in another prototype / scale which allows me to build without worrying about whether its prototypical or not (since I’m making it up). Its also nice to be “mostly” working with RTR models for a change.

This is so ‘me’ too!  I hesitate to take the plunge at some modelling task in case I get it wrong.  But what does it matter?  Usually you can rescue your mistakes or just throw it away and start again.  I can also identify with the comments above in that modifying ‘Earl’s Wood’ has really helped my modelling juices (and I must finish the new fiddle yard now I’m home).  And just taking some RTR models down to ESNG and giving them a run – and watching everyone else’s trains go by – has kept my interest in the hobby going.

The remedy – just get on with it!!  Mental note – must do just that.

 

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ESNG PlayDay – 10 May 2015 – update

Paul corrected me on the record-breaking train:

Hello Jon

The new record is 147 wagons hauled by two Kato EF510 locomotives. It took 3min 32sec for the train to pass the camera, total length 54 feet 8 inches. In real life, this is equivalent to 8,200 feet or 1.55 miles.
I still have more Japanese wagons, so this record could be broken on a yet larger circuit at some point in the future.
The attached video file is rather large – 155.08MB – but it shows the entire train from start to finish!
Kind regards
Paul

So here’s the video to confirm the occasion!

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Don’t be so ridiculous!!!!!!

Thomas the Tank Engine is ‘nasty’ and ‘sinister’ – or so say liberal parents, according to the Daily Telegraph.  Would you believe that:

Today marks the 70th anniversary of the publication of the first ‘Railway Series’ book by the Anglican vicar Rev Wilbert Awdry. But while children, especially boys, love Thomas and all the other engines who inhabit Awdry’s fictional world, some parents take exception to the apparently harmless books and TV series.

Reviews of the programme on the Common Sense Media website, a non-profit group that focuses on the effects of media and technology on children, lambast the series for being “nasty”, “negative” and a “bad example” to youngsters.

“Thomas is a poor role model,” says one reviewer. “Lots of nasty competitiveness between the trains. Thomas (and others) frequently shirk their responsibilities [in order to] compete against each other or to show off.”

“The Thomas series glories instead in true ‘white man’s burden’ style British imperialism.“Our hero Thomas, and his friends, jockey for positions just below that of the bullying aristocrat Sir Topham Hatt [America’s version of the Fat Controller] but never seek to rise to his level…The trains, complicit in maintaining this unjust system, humiliate each other for the small scraps of praise the little tyrant doles out rather than banding together.”

I’m appalled.  70 years of good clean harmless entertainment, teaching children that railways are a GOOD THING.  What could be wrong with that?  I was brought up on Thomas and look what it’s done for me (fast forward post before anyone answers).

One of the comments quotes CS Lewis:

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

But this account of the Rev. Awdry and the history of Thomas is much much better – deferential to a true superstar of book and screen….

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Barrow Hill Round House Rail Ale Festival

A message from the Cha(i)rman dropped into my inbox:

Hi having a great time at Barrow Hill Round House.
Picture below.

The first pictures have railway content and look interesting enough….

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But the next ones show the true purpose of the visit…..

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Looks like I missed out again!


And a few minutes later….

Another one for your blog Jon.
Can only do the round house and just outside. Can not get to the Pullmans or any of the locomotives outside. Sitting here with a beer watching the turn table go round.

Wish I was sitting here with a beer watching anything go round!

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Spot the difference!

I hope that the Railway Modeller will forgive my use of this excellent photograph of 3 ‘Deltics’.  To explain, and to quote…

An imposing line up of Deltics, reminiscent of Haymarket shed in the 1960’s, perhaps?  However, not everything is quite what it may seem at first glance; in the photo there’s a OO gauge model from Bachmann, the recent N gauge release from Graham Farish and the hefty O gauge version from Heljan – can you tell which is which?  (Photo: Craig Tiley).

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Looking at the detail in the bogie side frames, from front to back it’s clearly N, OO and O.  But it does show just how good the new generation of N gauge models is.  10 – or even 5 – years ago, the difference would have been obvious.

The article by Peter Kelly finishes with these wise words….

Each and every gauge has its merits and none of them deserves to be dismissed by those with a different preference…..

Surely the time has come to end any suggestion of gauge blindness, and instead appreciate other people’s choices for the merits of each and every gauge because, after all, it’s the love of railways past and present that will remain our common bond.

Or a train is a train is a train….  Good modelling is good modelling whatever the scale or indeed the prototype selected.  I’ve heard too many exhibitions dismissed by the comment, “Not much N gauge there”.   But I bet there were lots of good things to look at….

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ESNG PlayDay – 10 May 2015

May’s PlayDay started slowly, with just the 5 of us to set up the layout.  But Neil and Martin then arrived – unexpectedly, as we thought Neil was working and Martin was navigating an Eddie Stobart lorry somewhere in the UK.  But by the end of the afternoon we had a dozen people running trains, and a number of visitors had dropped in.  Phil also gets an honourable mention for arriving at the end, to come to the curry evening.

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There were plenty of train on show, as the fiddle yard shows….

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An early runner was the Stuttgart Friendship Train, consisting of gifts exchanged over the years on our Stuttgart visits.

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Neil’s train of tankers looked good, especially the weathering on the tanks.

Not sure how this London Tube train escaped onto the main line.  Still, Derek’s combination of a Corgi 2012 Olympics souvenir and a Japanese chassis runs well and looks good.

Continental Europe was represented by the ICE express, and a rather attractive DB airport express.  An unusual livery, and Allan has been looking for this old Lima model for ages.

I brought along a new Farish Class 31.  Another excellent model.  They get better and better at the moment with each new release.  I remember these locomotives at Kings Cross and Liverpool Street, and also in East Anglia in green diesel days.

Finally, there were new records set by Paul for the longest Japanese goods train.  149 wagons this month – and as you can see, the locomotive couldn’t have got any closer to the brake van!

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And a reminder for ESNG members.  Our AGM will be on Thursday 2 July.  Meeting from 7pm as always, AGM at 8pm.

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