ESNG meeting – 12 February 2023

A pleasant afternoon with seven members present.  We ran some trains, and socialised a lot.

An interesting layout – a 4×0 modular set up.  Dave was concerned that there wouldn’t be room for him in the middle of the layout, but he just about fitted when necessary!

Getting things set up….

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Plenty of trains running, on and occasionally off, the tracks….

A busy yard, with Allan’s new Swiss stock….

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Richard’s Swiss stock….

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American trains from Dave and Simon….

And British from Derek, Derek and myself…..

A GWR railcar in early BR livery.  I think this is my favourite livery for these iconic vehicles, and they look smarter then when in the original GWR chocolate and cream.

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The afternoon ended, as usual, with a curry.

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Potpourri #1065

It’s been a busy week, so nothing too original today!

Yesterday morning was spent helping run our toddler group.  And I spotted a pre-school version of that world famous Rule 1 – Percy goes High Speed!

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Give him a few year and he’ll walk into ESNG.  And certain ESNG members have been circulating this typical example of club night running.  At least the new fiddle yard doesn’t do this as often!

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Another nice picture of Bulleid’s 1-Co-Co-1 diesels – 10203 in early BR black livery.  Much as I like Peaks, these machines are even better to look at.  The chassis’ were very similar, I believe, so there is potential for a model here, if one can get a cheap Peak chassis.

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Two Southern named trains.  First the Golden Arrow, with a Spam Can waiting in Stewarts Lane to move back to the train waiting in Victoria Station.  And a well kept L1 4-4-0 next to it.

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And the Devon Belle, headed by Merchant Navy class ‘Channel Packet.’  The early BR blue livery suited the unrebuilt Merchant Navy’s better than the various shades of green they appeared in.

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Talking of L1’s, two more pictures of this Maunsell 4-4-0.  Built in 1926 for the south-eastern section these were a development of the earlier SECR D, D1, and L classes.  In some ways already dated, they performed very well and had a long and useful life, before being displaced by larger locos and electrification.

And their ancestors, the D1 and the L classes…

And finally for today, keeping the SECR theme, an R1 0-6-0T.  Elder readers may have had the Hornby-Dublo version of this little loco.  I never owned one, but did have a chassis with a Wills white metal kit of a LSWR G6 on top. 

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Meanwhile, my modelling this week largely consists of designing a diode matrix.  I hope to be able to report soon on ESNG’s next building project….

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And certainly on Sunday’s running afternoon….

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A sort of Minories of my own – 23

Marking time a bit with this post.  I’ve spent the last couple of days completing the control panel.  All the switches, buttons, and the controllers themselves have been mounted on the panel, and the panel recessed in the baseboard.  As ever, it could be a little neater in places, but it looks like it will work.

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I think that I will next get the wiring onto the back of the panel, then it will be back to trackwork.

But later today, first wires added to the panel, and a Gaugemaster transformer wired to a plug glued to the transformer casing.

For those of you who worry about rail size (code) and profile, here’s a chart showing all the rail types in use on the GWR in 1908.  It covers most options!

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And a fine shot of a Southern H15 leaving Salisbury Tunnel – scene of a recent rail crash and an interesting salvage operation to get one of the units out of the tunnel.  Notable, too, are the crimson liveried LSWR coaches at the head of the train, in front of some green coaches.

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Meanwhile, back at ESNG, we are considering whether to start a new project, after the relative success of the N-mod fiddle yard.  Possibilities include some more N-mod corner boards or an N-club fiddle yard/end loop.  Deliberations should be good for a few weeks…..

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Potpourri #1064

To start today’s mix, an interesting picture of London Victoria, around 1920 (photo Richard Meager.)  Some details here that would look good on a pre-grouping layout.

First off, why is there a loading gauge at the platform ends?  Possibly to check that the horse drawn carriages that were loaded onto carriage trucks, or even CCT’s (covered carriage trucks) were within gauge once the train was on the main line.

Which also answers the H&S question.  Why is there no barrier or fence at the end of the tracks?  Presumably, the wooden decking over the buffer stops allowed loading of said CCT’s.  Put this in your layout and wait for the critique at the next exhibition!

There’s the line of small boys, mostly in cloth caps.  And what appears to be an LBSCR H1 Atlantic at the head of the train, that consists of later Brighton bogie carriages.

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Some 35 years later, a U Class 2-6-0 simmers another Victoria platform end.  Any reader remember, or even travel on, British United Airways?

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Another U class, on shed, and the very similar 2-cylinder N class.  Both photos taken at Guildford shed.

Last Southern picture for today.  A King Arthur emerges from Knockholt tunnel in Southern days.  This ‘Scotch Arthur’ was one of a batch built by the North British Locomotive Company in 1924.  It’s an early photo, too, as the engine hasn’t acquired smoke deflectors yet.

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A couple of American photos.  First, Allentown, PA, in steam days, with the Lehigh Valley ‘John Wilkes’ named train at the platform.  A wonderful livery for both loco and carriages.  Also interesting in this photo is the extensive use of concrete on platform and river retaining wall.  There’s the river closely adjacent to the railway, and once again in pre-H&S days, just a flimsy railing to stop you falling in.  Very few lights on the platform that I can see, too….

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The steam locos would soon be replaced by the almost as attractive Alco PA diesels…

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A second photo of interest for modelling detail is this more modern photo taken in New Jersey during Conrail.  A switcher is undertaking some rapid moves at a passing place on a singled main line.  All complicated by the facing and trailing sidings serving the industries.  And some rapid work was needed, as there were other freights scheduled, plus an RDC passenger service passing through at 80 mph.  Modelling points are the run-down track in the industry, the variety of cars in the train, the dwarf telegraph poles, and the encroaching vegetation.

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And to finish, an F-unit with a more leisurely bit of switching….

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ESNG meeting – 1 February 2023

Back again for the Wednesday meeting.  It was a slow start, so we waited to set the layout up, but members then started to arrive, so we ran trains.  In the end eight members came through the door (and left again later.) 

With the new fiddle yard, the 2×0 layout is easy to set up and scenic all the way around.  It will probably be the standard for Wednesday evenings.  Sunday afternoons, we have a bit longer to meet, and usually a little more energy to set up a larger circuit.

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Simon was bulk testing diesels again, and Neil and Martin ran their usual long trains….

More American diesels on test….

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An oil train with Revolution Class A and B tankers.  I managed to reduce the weight in the Class A’s, that makes a longish train possible.

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Martin’s tiny – and surprisingly noisy – O8 on its own and on a PW train.

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More power, more PW, from Neil

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And Chris’ slightly older PW train….

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Finally a German intruder!

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Yes, they ARE enjoying themselves…..

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A sort of Minories of my own – 22

Not too much progress on the layout.  I have had a large sort out of my boxes for storing wiring and switches and rationalised them both – and found a number of things that I had lost.  And the good weather this week has forced me out into the garden for a massive tidy up, and a start to pruning the trees.

You may recall that I had extended the layout by 200mm to ease the track plan.  It occurred to me that the black facia would be an ideal location for a control panel for the layout.

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I then made a second executive decision – I have reverted from DCC to DC control.  The layout is small enough not to need DCC, and the point control can work just as well under analogue control.  I also happen to have a twin DC controller picked up second hand at a show.

Further thought about the electrics suggested that the points could be operated with just the three DPDT switches, one on each platform.  Connected to a diode matrix, the switch can set the route for ‘up’ or for ‘down’ running.  Next, I remembered that the Cobalt point motors have two switches attached.  One will change the point frog polarity.  By using a common return for the two controllers, the second switch can select the ‘up’ or ‘down’ controller.  So the layout can be operated by the three DPDT switches, plus isolating push buttons at platform end, and a switch for the loco spur point.

I think it will work…..  It will be interesting to see what happens.  Here’s the control panel, and the controllers that will fit in the white square.  I’ve had it printed on photo quality paper, to be durable and to look good.

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Note that the layout now has a name – Ludgate West.  Like Waterloo East, it will be the secondary platforms to a larger station.

Allan and Derek visited the Eastleigh show last weekend, and Allan passed on a few photos.  The large American layout below caught their eye.  It was a four sided layout, but not a continuous run – as you can see, the layout ended with loops on one side, leaving room for operators to enter the centre of the layout without any nasty bending and stretching.  Maybe an idea for the ageing ESNG members?

And Westcliff looks to be an excellent layout.

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ESNG meeting – 29 January 2023

Not a good start to the afternoon when I received this photo from Allan & Derek, returning from the Eastleigh exhibition…..

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A car fire (seen in the distance) had held them up on the M3, but they rolled in to the meeting only 20 or so minutes late.  And in the end we had a busy afternoon, with 11 members in attendance (and a good curry to finish.)

A fair size circuit was quickly set up…

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And trains were soon speeding around the main line.  (Faster with some operators than others!)

Little & Large #1.  Phil brought along this lovely O gauge Heljan Class 33 diesel.  It came from his late brother, like Phil a train fan, but modelling in O.  He worked for the Crompton company during development of the electrics for the Class 33s (alias Cromptons.)  Although like Phil a steam fan, this loco was a must for him.  A wonderful model (makes you want to go into the senior scale) and a precious family memory.

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Little & Large #2.  No comment!

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Trains running included items from Lucas….

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Allan…..

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Simon (with sound)….

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And Brian…..

Doctor, I keep seeing blue elephants……

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And as ever, Brian took some good footage of the afternoon.

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Erith MRS exhibition 2023

Saturday, and another morning in the company of Mr Dawes.  Collected early to have time for a breakfast – as a retired milkman, I’m convinced that Allan knows every cafe in the south-east…..  Even after a top-up of tea and coffee, we had a queue to get into the show, but we were able to have a good look around before it filled up.  I haven’t got pictures of everything, but here are a few items that I especially enjoyed…..

First the Minories department.  Hallam Town is classic Minories in 2mm finescale, but moved north into the Midlands.  If I recall correctly, the layout was built over a weekend at a show.

And St Saviour Street is a slightly developed Minories in N.   Again, simple but effective scenery.

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I enjoyed Seaton in P4, modelling the station in LSWR days, with a more complex track plan than when the Southern rationalised it.  And some excellent old goods wagons on show.

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I’ve seen Barryconnell Road before, but it’s another layout always worth a look.  It’s circular, and models Irish 5′ 3″ standard gauge (with the correct scale track gauge) in 3mm.  Great modelling!

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Lots of lovely overhead in HOm on the RhB Santa Maria.

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I liked Sheepcroft in EM – a simple minimum space plan but well modelled throughout.

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Fawcett Street offers plenty of shunting in a small space, with a clever track plan…

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Lots of snow on Que’vy….

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Light railways in O and in Kent with Sarre.

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A Scottish River on Mertonford…

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And to finish, a rather ethereal picture of Ray and Anna, who as usual brought their living room and coffee table to the show.

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There were a number of layouts that seemed to have just moved on from Canterbury last week.  I haven’t repeated the pictures….

Erith is billed as one of the biggest shows in the south of England.  It lived up to that billing.  Masses of trade, though mainly selling second-hand OO stock.  And perhaps too many generic OO layouts for my rather fussy liking.  But a good morning out, and we ran into a good number of friends at the show – exhibitors, traders, or just good honest punters and ESNG members.

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Three interesting layout designs….

‘Ian from Cumbria’ linked to his layout blogs on RMweb.  He has developed three excellent plans, and I reproduce them here.  The location is somewhere in the West Country, but the principles could be moved almost anywhere.

First, Tredethy Wharf, a what-if on the Bodmin and Wadebridge….

Though Tredethy Wharf has been a good introduction to Scalefour modelling it has not been a layout that I’ve been tempted to operate at home. When set up at home it’s normally just there as a static diorama collecting dust. That said I have enjoyed taking it to shows along with helping out on other layouts at shows. I’ve become to realise making an exhibition of myself in front of a layout is a rewarding experience. Meeting up with friends who help, the meeting of fellow modellers along with the public who ask questions, or just seeing peoples/children’s facial expressions makes the whole event worthwhile.

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Next, Rospeath Lane MPD, a GWR engine shed.

Rospeath Lane was been design to give me these challenges but it is a layout that has not really been designed as an exhibition layout. With two main baseboards being 4’6”x3’ it will be difficult to handle and transport by myself. By the time it’s in a state to exhibit I’ll probably be too infirm to manage it. Even though progress has stagnated during the last 18 months I’m still very committed to continuing with Rospeath Lane but only as a home based layout.

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And finally, Boscarne Junction, a real junction in deepest Cornwall….

Back in April 2020 I posted a blog titled ‘Deciding on the next project’. At that time all five were designed to fit in the ‘Man Cave’ at the previous house. In revisiting these ideas one stands out more than the others as a possible exhibition layout….. the project to look at in more detail as a successor to Tredethy Wharf is Boscarne Junction. It will follow on nicely from Tredethy Wharf, keeping in the family so to speak. All the rolling stock I have build and likely to build for Tredethy Wharf will potentially be used on Boscarne Junction. More importantly it will give me many new challenges to overcome especially represent a real location.

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Boscarne is an interesting location, not least in that it doesn’t have a station there.  Though I did rather like his earlier simplified version of Boscarne.  Smaller, simpler, and something of the atmosphere of that IOW favourite, Smallbrook Junction.

Templot Pages

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So three, rather four, excellent track plans to generate some more layout ideas.

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Potpourri #1063

Slow progress on the Minories – I’ve had a few days reading some good books.  But I have made up and laid the track for the three platforms.  The 4-CEP is to check that it will fit into the shortest platform and to give an impression of how things will look.  Room for a buffer stop at the platform end.  I’ve started to build the next crossover, but I’m taking it slow to avoid mistakes… 

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Potpourri follows!  Can’t remember whether I’ve posted this layout by Andrew Knights before.  Southern third-rail junction, with a lay-over track on the branch.  Very simple, but looks good (I saw it at an exhibition last year.)  Halving dimensions for N gives a very compact layout.

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Whoops #1 (Photo: Adrian Thompson.)

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Whoops #2

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Whoops #3.  Pinched from RMweb – can you get penguins in N for a similar cameo?

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Cannon Street in 1958 with a Hastings DEMU leaving (photo: Richard Riley.)  Hopefully my Minories will give similar vibes, albeit on a smaller scale.

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A loco that I’d love to have on the layout.  CC1 passing Merstham in 1941.  Note the way the windows have been reduced in size with steel plates in case of shrapnel. 

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And a Maunsell shunter would be preferable to an O8!

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A T9 in early BR livery (as a Royal Engine?) at Dorchester.

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And to finish, a video about that most elegant of fairly modern EMU’s – the Wessex electrics.

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